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Returning from work one day, my wife wanted to tell me about one of her customers. He shops at the jewelry store she works at, coming in a couple of times a month. Way led to way and it came out that her husband was a Marine… and Jewish. Apparently this man had never met a Jew before, let alone a Jewish Marine. He HAD to meet me, she said. Could I show up one day for lunch? He’d buy! After a little prodding from my wife, I was up for once again being the “duty Jew”. (To steal a term from CAPT Block).
A few days later I found myself eating lunch at a deli a few stores down from where my wife works. The gentlemen in question was an older fellow, lived by himself, a little eccentric but in the end genuine. He wasn’t interested in converting me to Christianity or saving my soul, he just wanted to know more about Jews. Having never met a Jew before, his only knowledge came from stereotypes.
“Why are you all so rich and successful?” He asked.
I tried to explain about how the religion values education. I may have thrown in something about the fact that being persecuted again and again, from Ancient Rome to the Third Reich leaves the survivors with wits and a bias for action.
“Why are so many of you doctors and lawyers?”
A philosophical discussion on the religion being based on making the world a better place and the plethora of rules we layer our religion in. And did I mention we value education.
“How many Jews are in the Marines.”
I’m going to go with about 1 in 100. But in my father’s time there was a disproportionate number of Jews in the military. (Hey there’s a good discussion on Jews In Green about this - but this conversation happened before JIG.)
“But Jews can’t fight. I mean, come on.”
Tell that to the millions of Arabs who tried to push the Israelis into the sea time and time again only to have their butts kicked.
The conversation went on, repeating many of the same questions I’ve come to expect from non-Jews.
“But no Jew has ever won the Medal of Honor.”
Blink. Blink. I was stumped. Surely, Jews have won the Medal of Honor. But I didn’t know any off-hand. Not one to argue without the facts, I demurred, “You know, I can’t say whether you’re right. Jews have a long and storied history of fighting for this country. I can’t believe a Jew has never won the Medal of Honor. But I can’t give you an example.”
He had me, “I think you’ll find I’m right… no Jew has ever won the Medal of Honor.” He smiled at me smugly.
Lunch came to an end before long and the first thing I did when I got home was to google Jewish Medal of Honor winners. I found a great website, aptly titled Jewish Recipients of the Congressional Medal of Honor, run by Seymour “Sy” Brody off of a Florida Atlantic University server.
And that’s just those we know for sure. Many Jews, especially during earlier wars, probably did not let on that they were in fact Jewish.
As we are all aware, the actual name of the medal is The Medal of Honor. It’s incorrectly referred to as The Congressional Medal of Honor because Congress must award it. But forgiving the discrepancy, the website is fantastic. I printed out all 17 Medal of Honor citations and sent them with my wife to deliver the next time she saw the gentleman who believed otherwise.
My Judaism For Dummies book says this counts as Torah Study, and so I share this website and knowledge with you for the next time you are the “duty Jew.”
- Taiyas
Great story, thanks for posting it!
HI, you know someone said a similar thing to me once about the Victoria Cross and he was surpeised i was in the britsh Army as “there are no Jews in the british Army...” type accusation. After a little research i discovered Leonard Keysor VC an Australian, Frank De Pass VC, Issy Smith VC (WW1 recipient whos name was Shmulevitch but the Tommys of WW1 couldnt pronounce that so it was changed to Smith), Tommy Gould VC, CG Anderson VC, John Kenneally VC, Captain Robert Gee VC, Private J White (Weiss), Arthur Aaron VC, and they are just the ones i could find out about. Makes me proud to be Jewish and British! Something for me to think about in Iraq next week!
Hi.
I enjoyed reading your article on “...Medal of Honor” Please let me state a few facts:
CG Anderson, John Kenneally and Arthur Aaron - all VC winners, were not Jewish - Halachically.
As a military historian and vice president of the
Victorian Association of Jewish Ex-Servicemen and
Women (Australia), I have made an extensive search
of above 3 and discovered Aaaron, VC, DFM, had a
Jewish father only. However, Bobbi Campbell should be applauded for writing in.
Sincerely, Ben Hirsh
Good one Bob, keep flying the flag. Ben Hirsh is correct. Also Tommy Gould’s father only was Jewish but he lived and was buried a Christian. He always identified himself as jewish and was a life vice president of the Association of Jewish Ex-Servicemen. Sgt Major Kennealy was the illegitimate son of an eminent Manchester textile merchant, Neville Blond, who was married into the Marks & Spencer Dynasty and who later became Chairman of the English Theatre Company. Kenneally was quite open about his Jewish heritage.
Flt Sgt Aarons also identified as Jewish although halchically he wasn’t - he joined the RAF after serving in 319 (Broughton) Jewish Squadron Air Training Corps in Manchester.
Thanks for the updates but i wasnt referring to people that would satisfy a rabbinincal court, merely people that either were generally accepted as Jews or identified themselves as Jews. On that note, Eisenhower had in his West Point yearbook “This is Senor Dwight Davis Eisenhower, the terrible Swedish-Jew and twice as natural.” but i dont think anyone really thought of him a genuinely Jewish. Just like in the main article to which i responded, it is generally belived that Jews cannot fight and have not really served. More worryingly, in Great Britain the Jewish community itself has a hard time believing that there are Jews in the British Forces and an even harder time accepteing that they serve in Her Majasties most elite fighting units. I was merely pointing out that Jews (or those of Jewish origin) have always served loyally to the crown including those that were awarded the highest of honours.
Shalom All:
I hope everyone has had a Heathy and Happy Pesach in these time of uncertainity. I know personnelly how arer bothers and sister jewish service men and women are feeling and practicing because I to have been their. In your above article you stated the question “ how many Jewish marines are there?” I would like to suggest that you email U.S. Navy Jewish Chaplin CDR. Irving Elson at the New Commador Levy Chapel at U.S. Naval Academy. Nick Named The Rabbi of the Golden Triangle. When it comes to Naval Chaplins deployed oversea in harms way He is the Rabbi who knows.
Shalom to all and as we Gunnersmates say “Keep your powder dry”
V/r
GM1(SW/SCW) Peter M. Michelson (Pincus Mendel)
Watch this space Bob. And I though that mosts paras did their fighting in Aldershot on a Staurday night!
By the time we’ve finished our recently implemented PR execercise the UK Jewish Community will be only too well aware of the Jewish personnel serving in HM Forces. In between the two world wars Jews served in numbers exceeding the national average. And it wasn’t just VCs. The total number of (MCs, MMs, AFCs, etc)decorations was outstanding.
We now need to convince our ‘not declared’ colleagues to come out of the woodwork and admit that they are Jewish - it’s starting to happen. The Jewish Chronicle is just waiting for the next Campbell story!!!!
Leenie,
I can’t find a way to contact you through the website. You wanted to use parts of what I wrote in this article for your Rosh Hashanah cards. Of course you have my permission.
-Taiyas
Can whoever claims that Charles G Anderson who won the VC in WW1, is Jewish, please contact me urgently?
Martin Sugarman
tel London time after 7pm 0208 986 4868
I received a note asking that Captain Robert Gee be removed as a Jewish recipient of the Victorian Cross.
A little research revealed that he and his award-winning actions were listed in the American Jewish Yearbook 5680. Link here (LARGE PDF). Also, in 1953, 7 years prior to his passing, Captain Gee participated in the dedication of a memorial to Western Australian Jewish war dead of World War II.
Without additional information to the contrary, I believe it is proper to continue to list Captain Robert Gee as a Jewish recipient of the Victorian Cross.
Captain Robert Gee VC (Royal Fusiliers)appears in the WW1 Jewish Book of Honour compiled by Chief Rabbi Adler (former senior Jewish Chaplain)from records of the Jewish chaplains. I think you can safely say he was Jewish. He certainly led a parade of Jewish ex-servicemen to the Australian War memorial in King’s park, London.
Reference Capt Robert Gee VC, you might like to check this out with the Association of Jewish Ex-Servicemen’s museum in London. Contact is Martin Sugarman - his email address is at serial 9 above. I suspect they will confirm that he was Jewish
Sorry - correction to above - Capt Gee led a parade of Jewish Ex-servicemen at a service at the South African War Memorial at King’s Park, Pert W. Australia (not London) in 1953.
Shalom All:
I just found the webpage. http://www.homeofheros.com its pretty impressive for a small # of Honorable Menchs.
V/r
GMC(SW/SCW) Peter M Michelson
ALL THIS TALK ABOUT BRAVERY AND MEDALS IS CRAP.
I REVEIVED BRONZE STARS COMBAT MEDICAL BADGE
ARMY COMMENDATION MEDAL WITH V FOR VALOR ETC. ETC.IN NAM IN THE 101ST IN NAM AND PROBABLY MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS WOULD HAVE RECEIVED MANY OTHER MEDALS, BUT FOR INSTANCE, MY LAST WEEK IN COMBAT MAY 1970 I WAS IN CONSTANT COMBAT ALMOST
HAND TO HAND AND WHEN MY TOUR WAS UP, I FLEW HOME MY COMPANY COMMANDER HAD NO TIME TO WRITE UP MEDALS! I AND GOD AND MY BUDDIES KNOW WHAT I DID , AND I HAVE ENOUGH MEDALS AS IS, THAT’S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME- JEWISH SURIVAL SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!!!
I can’t believe no Jewish person has ever won the medal of honor...that’s just messed up. I’m sure there was at least one deserving. My good buddy that works on this mmorpg community site is Jewish and I know him to be one of the bravest people I’ve ever known.
Zack,
You obviously did not read the article. Take a look again. Many Jews have won the medal of honor.